Big Money Retirement For Johnathan Burgess

Four days in your building.

Everything I took away, and where I think I can actually help.
From Buck Wise · June 2026 · written for you, Johnathan

Johnathan, I sat in your offices for four days. I was in the room with your advisors, with your marketing and events team, and across the table from you while we mapped the path to a hundred locations. I came away genuinely fired up about what you've built, and I kept landing on the same thought everywhere I went. So before I left, I wrote it all down. This is that, written for you, not a proposal and not a pitch.

One

You've already done the hard part

I don't think you give yourself enough credit for where you are. You went independent in 2022. You're sitting on half a billion in assets. You went out and hired a bench that has no business being at a company your size yet, people who ran advisor books from a billion to fifty billion at Schwab, BNY, LPL, and TIAA-CREF. And you took this thing from half a million a year in the insurance days to eleven or twelve million projected this year. Most people never build that. You did.

~$500M
in assets, 24 people, 4 offices with a 5th opening
$11-12M
revenue this year, up from $500K in the insurance era
100
offices by 2031, the number you're driving toward

Now you want a hundred offices by 2031, and you want to do one a month in 2027 instead of one a quarter. I ran the math with you and it holds up. One a month at roughly three hundred grand each is about three and a half million a year, and that calls for your annuity run rate to climb from ninety million to around two hundred forty. That's a real jump, but it's the kind marketing and retention can carry, and Signal's credit line can fund the build without you handing over a piece of the company.

So I'm not going to spend a page convincing you that you can grow. You can. What I want to talk about is the one thing I heard in every single room, whether anyone said it out loud or not. You're flooring it, and the people in the car are already maxed. And too much of the engine still runs through you.

Two

What kept tapping me on the shoulder

I want to start with what's working, because it's a lot. Your advisors believe in this. When Lindsey said money isn't the goal, freedom is the goal, that wasn't a line she rehearsed, that's how she actually thinks, and you can build a whole brand on people who talk like that. Your close rates beat the industry. Your new leadership hires are sharp enough to run a company ten times this size. The foundation is real.

But three things kept tapping me on the shoulder all week.

Your people are at the line

Nancy brought on a hundred and fifty million dollars by herself last year without a single thing slipping. That's incredible, and it's also exactly the problem. If your volume doubles and she's still doing that solo, she breaks. Every new idea you and I get excited about is competing for the same exhausted attention, because the team doesn't have a spare hour.

It still runs through you

You're still placing trades for fifty thousand dollar accounts. You're still meeting every client once a year. You've tried twice to hand that off and it hasn't stuck. I get why, nobody trusts it the way they trust you. But a hundred offices cannot route through one person, and that's the quiet ceiling on the whole plan.

You're leaving easy money on the table

Your marketing says the same thing to everyone. Your CRM is full of people you've already paid to reach and you're doing nothing with them. And the judgment that makes this work lives in your head, not in a system anyone else can run. None of that is broken. It's just the bill that comes due when you grow this fast, and it's all fixable.

What this means right now
  • Say the three constraints out loud with your leadership so everyone's solving the same problem.
  • Decide the next chapter is about building systems, not asking the team for more hours.
  • Get Nancy and your senior people help before the volume doubles, not after.
Three

You're sitting on money you aren't touching

Before we build a single new thing, there's real growth sitting in stuff you already own. This is the cheapest money in the company, and most of it feeds the run-rate number you need.

Your mailers are the whole game, and they're at 0.3%

Dinner events still fill your funnel, and your mail response is hovering around three tenths of a percent. That one number moves everything. Get it to six tenths and you've doubled the top of your funnel without hiring a single advisor, and that flows straight into the run rate you need for one office a month.

There are millions asleep in your CRM

$489M
tracked across your Salesforce
4,530
prospect households you reached and never converted
$0
spent today re-engaging any of them

You said it yourself, there are millions sitting in the CRM. Past clients, old prospects, people you already spent money to bring in, and not one re-engagement campaign running against them. This is the easiest yes in the building and it's the first thing I'd hand your new marketing director.

Stop saying the same thing to everyone

When I dug into your best clients, three kinds of people showed up over and over. The analyzer who got burned somewhere along the way and now trusts nobody. The engineer, who shows up way more often in your top accounts than chance would explain. And the person who moved here for retirement. They all carry the same fear underneath, and it's not about returns. It's the husband sitting across from you who knows he'll go first and is terrified his wife won't understand any of it once he's gone. Right now your messaging speaks to none of them by name. Speaking to each of them is some of the fastest lift you can get.

Run more of the events that actually close

Your own numbers say the non-dinner formats close at a far higher clip than the dinners do. That's a calendar decision you can make on Monday.

Build a real lane for your big accounts

Your two-and-a-half-million-dollar prospects almost never close on the second meeting, and the standard pitch falls flat with them. The ones who did close, closed because you answered the single thing keeping them up, a tax problem, a Roth conversion map, not because you talked returns or fees. Those clients need their own discovery, their own pace, and a lot of patience between meetings.

Make your advisors mean something specific

Every advisor in that room said they "care." Caring doesn't separate anyone, because everyone says it. Lindsey stands out because she can tell you about her grandparents losing their retirement when someone robbed them blind, and that's why she does this. Every advisor needs one sentence like that. And the topic on your mailer needs to match what gets said at the dinner, because when it doesn't, people feel the switch the second they sit down, and you've lost them before you've started.

What I'd do first
  • Set the mailer goal at 0.6% and measure every campaign against it.
  • Turn on a re-engagement campaign against the dead weight in your CRM. This is project one.
  • Write real messaging for the analyzer, the engineer, and the relocator, all built on protecting the spouse.
  • Tilt the event calendar toward the formats that close.
  • Give your big accounts their own track, built around their pain, not your pitch.
  • Have every advisor write their one sentence, and check that your mailers and your dinners are telling the same story.
Four

Four things I'd build with you

That last chapter was the quick stuff. These four are the bigger swings, and they're the ones a maxed-out team can't pull off on its own. This is the real work.

The agentic system you want

You told me you want to build your own agentic system, and I think you're right to, because it's the best answer there is for a company that's out of hours and trying to triple. The whole idea is to put the repetitive, low-judgment work onto agents so your people spend their time on the things only they can do. I'd start with one agent, the CRM re-engagement engine from a minute ago, because it pays for itself fast and you'll see it working in weeks. Once that's proven, it grows into lead scoring, advisor tools, your dashboard, and eventually the playbook itself. We earn the next piece by shipping the first one.

The November expo

You took my idea of a two thousand person retirement expo in November, the one we keep off the Big Money name on purpose, and I think it's the boldest thing on this list. You stop being another mailer in somebody's pile and you become the person who owns the room. Your fear is fair, your team doesn't have the spare brainpower to build something that big in the time you've got. That's the whole point of why it shouldn't sit on them. The brand, the run of show, the content, the logistics, the follow-up after, that's a thing I carry, so your people keep running the business and just walk in as the stars of it.

A brand that travels

This is where the quick wins from before grow up into one system. Messaging built around the three people you actually serve. Advisors who stand for something specific. Mailers and dinners that finally tell the same story. And the glow that comes off hosting a category event instead of buying an ad. The test is simple, your fortieth office should feel as deliberate as your fourth.

The machine that runs the org

This is the backbone of the whole hundred-office plan. The CRM engine, one tech stack across every office, and a dashboard you can read in ten minutes with your coffee. The big one is a playbook that carries your judgment, not just your process. The calls that only you can make right now, written down and built into the system, with clear lines for when to fold an office that isn't working at six or nine months instead of letting it bleed. This is the thing that finally takes the company off your back.

What I'd do first
  • Green-light one agent, the CRM engine, as the proof your agentic system works.
  • Keep the expo off the Big Money name and get the build off your team's plate.
  • Make the three-avatar messaging the standard across mail, events, and advisor content.
  • Start the playbook now, capturing the calls that currently only you can make.
  • Spec the dashboard and decide what numbers fold an underperforming office.
Five

The hire walking in on the 22nd

Your new marketing director starts the week of June 22nd, and how their first ninety days go will shape the next two years. Picture it from their side. They walk into a company moving this fast, with a CRM full of cobwebs, messaging that says nothing in particular, and no real way to track what's working. Most people would burn half a year just finding the floor. Yours shouldn't have to.

I'd sit right next to them. Hand them the avatar work and the funnel research so they're not starting from a blank page. Help them stand up the tracking and the CRM engine. Give them a clear, ordered plan so they're executing in week one instead of guessing. It gets them productive faster, and it protects the bet you just made hiring them.

What I'd do first
  • Walk them through this whole thing in their first week.
  • Hand over the avatars and the funnel data as their starting kit.
  • Point them at the CRM re-engagement and the tracking before anything else.
Six

How I'd run the next stretch

Here's the order I'd run it, hung on the two dates that don't move, your director starting the 22nd and the expo in November.

Late June
Lay the foundation. Get your new director up to speed on this plan. Stand up tracking and the avatar messaging. Scope the CRM engine, your first agent.
July
First wins go live. The CRM re-engagement is running. Segmented messaging is in the next mail and event cycle. Every mailer is measured against 0.6%.
August
Build the system layer. Dashboard in pilot. The playbook starts getting written. Event calendar tilts toward what closes. The expo build kicks off.
September into October
Build the expo, fix the big-account lane. Brand, run of show, content, and follow-up funnel all come together. The two-and-a-half-million-dollar track gets designed and tested.
November
The expo runs. Two thousand people in the room. I'm on-site with you for the run-up and the night itself. Your team walks in as the stars, not the crew that built it.
Right after
Recap and reset. We sit down, look hard at what the expo actually did, and scope the year ahead together.
Through 2027
Ready to scale. Playbook, dashboard, and one tech stack in place to open an office a month, and I stay in it with you through the year to keep it on the rails.
Seven

Everything, on one page

It all lives here in one place. "Now" means you can start with what you already have. "Build" means it takes real construction.

The workTypeWho starts it
Re-engagement campaign against the dead CRM dataNowNew director and Buck
Messaging for the analyzer, engineer, and relocatorNowNew director and Buck
0.6% mailer target, measured every campaignNowNew director
Tilt the event calendar toward what closesNowMarketing and events
One emotional sentence per advisorNowAdvisors and Buck
Match the mailer topic to the dinner contentNowYou and marketing
A real lane for two-and-a-half-million-dollar clientsNowAdvisors and Buck
The agentic system, starting with the CRM engineBuildBuck and you
The November expo, off the Big Money nameBuildQinary carries it
The brand that travels to every officeBuildBuck and new director
The playbook that carries your judgmentBuildBuck and you
Dashboard and one tech stack across officesBuildBuck and your EVP of Ops
The numbers that fold a failing officeBuildYou and your EVP of Finance
Eight

Where I want in

Here's the honest thing I came away with after four days. You've got the people, the model, and a clear path to the money. What you don't have is a single spare hour to build all of this while you're busy running the business. And that gap is what decides whether a hundred offices is a real plan or a nice slide.

Most of what's in here is bigger than a weekly call with one of your creatives. It's the difference between coaching one person and building the machine.

What I keep picturing is somebody sitting in alongside you and your new director and carrying the things your team just can't absorb right now. The agentic system. The expo. The brand. The playbook. Somebody who takes weight off instead of adding it, gets the judgment out of your head and into something that runs without you, and keeps the whole plan moving at once instead of one piece at a time.

That means I'm in your markets every month, on the ground with your people, not just a voice on a screen. It means I'm on-site with you for the run-up to the expo and the night it happens. And it means I'm in it with you through 2027, so the year you actually scale doesn't come apart. After the event we recap, look at what worked, and scope the year after that together.

That's the role I'd love to talk through with you. It isn't marketing and it isn't consulting in the usual sense. It's closer to a partner who's in it with you. I've got a shape for it in my head, but I didn't write this to sell you anything. I wrote it because I can see the whole path, and I'd be genuinely excited to help you walk it.

If any of this lands, let's grab time and talk about what working together actually looks like.

Talk soon,
Buck Wise
Buck Wise, Qinary